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		<title>By: Costa DeVault &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Southwest&#8217;s User-Driven Community</title>
		<link>http://communikaytrix.com/2009/06/09/then-why-are-you-paying-me/comment-page-1/#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Costa DeVault &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Southwest&#8217;s User-Driven Community]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] though it&#8217;s happening more and more frequently). As PR people, it&#8217;s still our job to shape messaging, but there are times when taking a cue from the masses can be the best decision. For example, when [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] though it&#8217;s happening more and more frequently). As PR people, it&#8217;s still our job to shape messaging, but there are times when taking a cue from the masses can be the best decision. For example, when [...]</p>
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		<title>By: communikaytrix</title>
		<link>http://communikaytrix.com/2009/06/09/then-why-are-you-paying-me/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beth – thank you very much for chiming in!  At the end of the day we totally agree that messaging plays an important role in defining a brands reputation both on and offline. I still hesitate to say that the social Web has taken control away from us though. A well crafted PR/communication strategy will put a company in better control over the conversation than a company without one – though not absolute control of course.  But we agree that social media does pave the way for very volatile conversations unlike ever before and it does leave brands vulnerable.  But it’s a great opportunity and not something brands should be afraid of.  Thanks for your awesome points!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beth – thank you very much for chiming in!  At the end of the day we totally agree that messaging plays an important role in defining a brands reputation both on and offline. I still hesitate to say that the social Web has taken control away from us though. A well crafted PR/communication strategy will put a company in better control over the conversation than a company without one – though not absolute control of course.  But we agree that social media does pave the way for very volatile conversations unlike ever before and it does leave brands vulnerable.  But it’s a great opportunity and not something brands should be afraid of.  Thanks for your awesome points!</p>
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		<title>By: communikaytrix</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[communikaytrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anna – thank you for your kind words! We agree (as usual) that social media provides us with a lot of opportunity. 

Max – Yes, I appreciated your support on it last week .  I whole heartedly agree with you that companies have many more brand representatives these days, with much louder voices. Really demonstrates how critical it is to select the right people and make sure everyone understands agreed upon messaging. 

Mary – Thanks for your compliment on the name! Yes – control I think conjures up visions of having complete power over something which we certainly do not have. We agree our jobs as communicators are to help our clients understand how to leverage these tools to propel positive conversation. 

@brenleigh – Thank you for the compliments! Yes – in the old days we had much less opportunity to publically correct issues. Today, there are lots of ways companies can counteract bad dialogue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna – thank you for your kind words! We agree (as usual) that social media provides us with a lot of opportunity. </p>
<p>Max – Yes, I appreciated your support on it last week .  I whole heartedly agree with you that companies have many more brand representatives these days, with much louder voices. Really demonstrates how critical it is to select the right people and make sure everyone understands agreed upon messaging. </p>
<p>Mary – Thanks for your compliment on the name! Yes – control I think conjures up visions of having complete power over something which we certainly do not have. We agree our jobs as communicators are to help our clients understand how to leverage these tools to propel positive conversation. </p>
<p>@brenleigh – Thank you for the compliments! Yes – in the old days we had much less opportunity to publically correct issues. Today, there are lots of ways companies can counteract bad dialogue.</p>
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		<title>By: communikaytrix</title>
		<link>http://communikaytrix.com/2009/06/09/then-why-are-you-paying-me/comment-page-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[communikaytrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stevie - love that point. There are so many things you can do to influence the conversation (I learned a lot from watching you as I&#039;ve said before). Thank you for the compliment too! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevie &#8211; love that point. There are so many things you can do to influence the conversation (I learned a lot from watching you as I&#8217;ve said before). Thank you for the compliment too! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: communikaytrix</title>
		<link>http://communikaytrix.com/2009/06/09/then-why-are-you-paying-me/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[communikaytrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good points Michael - the conversation has definitely changed. Agreed about listening to your consumers - social media lets us do that in a much more dynamic and engaging way than ever before - great way to get feedback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good points Michael &#8211; the conversation has definitely changed. Agreed about listening to your consumers &#8211; social media lets us do that in a much more dynamic and engaging way than ever before &#8211; great way to get feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Harte</title>
		<link>http://communikaytrix.com/2009/06/09/then-why-are-you-paying-me/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth Harte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel, great blog name! Glad to see you blogging...I am really looking forward to a lot of great discussions here. 

As for controlling the message... Yes, we need to &#039;manage&#039; the message going out the door, but I think there&#039;s a huge misperception on the part of PR (and marketing folks) that they can &#039;control&#039; the message that someone interprets or shares. So, in that sense, yes &quot;the social Web has taken messaging control away from us.&quot;

We can&#039;t tell people on the social web &quot;No, you aren&#039;t *getting* our messaging, here&#039;s what we meant &amp; here&#039;s how you should interpret it&quot; or &quot;Here&#039;s what messaging you *should* be sharing with others...not what you are saying about our brand/company.&quot;

While we work very hard to craft our messaging...how it is interpreted or shared by others is truly out of our control. 

&quot;I certainly can’t imagine telling my clients that no matter what we do, we can’t influence the way their brands are talked about on blogs, forums and social networking sites.&quot;

Influence is a different aspect from control. Sure, by treating customer, prospects, investors properly; helping when there are issues; engaging them online; listening to them; etc. [or not!] All those activities can influence how brands are talked about online...positively, neutrally or even negatively. But the problem is, some of those aspects don&#039;t fall within PR (or marketing) and from that perspective...we can&#039;t &quot;control&quot; what people say when they are ticked off at Customer Service or stock prices falling to pennies. And we can&#039;t influence their online behaviors with PR messaging if the problems aren&#039;t being solved internally. (i.e sugar-coating issues to make them stop talking online). On the flip side, getting involved when it&#039;s a positive online situation to push additional messaging can be just as disastrous because there&#039;s a perception of control, which seems to turn people off.

Looking forward to more lively chats with you Wednesday nights at #pr20chat! ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, great blog name! Glad to see you blogging&#8230;I am really looking forward to a lot of great discussions here. </p>
<p>As for controlling the message&#8230; Yes, we need to &#8216;manage&#8217; the message going out the door, but I think there&#8217;s a huge misperception on the part of PR (and marketing folks) that they can &#8216;control&#8217; the message that someone interprets or shares. So, in that sense, yes &#8220;the social Web has taken messaging control away from us.&#8221;</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t tell people on the social web &#8220;No, you aren&#8217;t *getting* our messaging, here&#8217;s what we meant &amp; here&#8217;s how you should interpret it&#8221; or &#8220;Here&#8217;s what messaging you *should* be sharing with others&#8230;not what you are saying about our brand/company.&#8221;</p>
<p>While we work very hard to craft our messaging&#8230;how it is interpreted or shared by others is truly out of our control. </p>
<p>&#8220;I certainly can’t imagine telling my clients that no matter what we do, we can’t influence the way their brands are talked about on blogs, forums and social networking sites.&#8221;</p>
<p>Influence is a different aspect from control. Sure, by treating customer, prospects, investors properly; helping when there are issues; engaging them online; listening to them; etc. [or not!] All those activities can influence how brands are talked about online&#8230;positively, neutrally or even negatively. But the problem is, some of those aspects don&#8217;t fall within PR (or marketing) and from that perspective&#8230;we can&#8217;t &#8220;control&#8221; what people say when they are ticked off at Customer Service or stock prices falling to pennies. And we can&#8217;t influence their online behaviors with PR messaging if the problems aren&#8217;t being solved internally. (i.e sugar-coating issues to make them stop talking online). On the flip side, getting involved when it&#8217;s a positive online situation to push additional messaging can be just as disastrous because there&#8217;s a perception of control, which seems to turn people off.</p>
<p>Looking forward to more lively chats with you Wednesday nights at #pr20chat! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: @brenleigh</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the new blog Rachel...and the name!  

The same rule threw me for a loop too when I read the Seven Deadly Sins article. I think you are right that social media helps us control the message. I understand the posters who steer away from the use of the word &quot;control&quot;, but by engaging in social media we are helping our clients be aware of the discussions surrounding their services/products and showing them how to better shape their message so that they can address any inaccuracies or misconceptions.  

I think your tactics for defining your message online are spot on. Can&#039;t wait for the next post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the new blog Rachel&#8230;and the name!  </p>
<p>The same rule threw me for a loop too when I read the Seven Deadly Sins article. I think you are right that social media helps us control the message. I understand the posters who steer away from the use of the word &#8220;control&#8221;, but by engaging in social media we are helping our clients be aware of the discussions surrounding their services/products and showing them how to better shape their message so that they can address any inaccuracies or misconceptions.  </p>
<p>I think your tactics for defining your message online are spot on. Can&#8217;t wait for the next post!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Barber</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Barber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love the name of your blog Rachel. Very clever. 

Like some of the others who have commented, I also have reservations about using the word &quot;control.&quot; As PR professionals I don&#039;t think we control the message as much as we might try to shape it for our clients and also help them listen to others so they can make good choices. 

I feel as though my day is spent today helping clients understand new media tools so they can listen and hear the community&#039;s messages to shape their programs and products more effectively. Social media is driven by people who don&#039;t want to be managed and controlled by companies. We need to continue making sure it&#039;s a two-way street.

Thanks again for your post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the name of your blog Rachel. Very clever. </p>
<p>Like some of the others who have commented, I also have reservations about using the word &#8220;control.&#8221; As PR professionals I don&#8217;t think we control the message as much as we might try to shape it for our clients and also help them listen to others so they can make good choices. </p>
<p>I feel as though my day is spent today helping clients understand new media tools so they can listen and hear the community&#8217;s messages to shape their programs and products more effectively. Social media is driven by people who don&#8217;t want to be managed and controlled by companies. We need to continue making sure it&#8217;s a two-way street.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your post</p>
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		<title>By: Max Christian Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Christian Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel, glad you took up the topic of control again. So many people re-tweeted you about it last week that I knew you&#039;d struck a chord in many minds. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re expanding on it. 

One thing I might add: managing (not controlling) the message nowadays means building a new level of trust with one&#039;s employees. Remember that one of the old-school ingredients of message control was that only a select spokesperson was even allowed to speak the company&#039;s message. Now any employee can do so--and quite publicly--and it&#039;s deadly to try to rein them in. Better to build the kind of trust that will make them public allies, even if they may make the occasional gaffe or factual misstatement that will need to be corrected.

Keep on blogging!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel, glad you took up the topic of control again. So many people re-tweeted you about it last week that I knew you&#8217;d struck a chord in many minds. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re expanding on it. </p>
<p>One thing I might add: managing (not controlling) the message nowadays means building a new level of trust with one&#8217;s employees. Remember that one of the old-school ingredients of message control was that only a select spokesperson was even allowed to speak the company&#8217;s message. Now any employee can do so&#8211;and quite publicly&#8211;and it&#8217;s deadly to try to rein them in. Better to build the kind of trust that will make them public allies, even if they may make the occasional gaffe or factual misstatement that will need to be corrected.</p>
<p>Keep on blogging!</p>
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		<title>By: annabarcelos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[annabarcelos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Rachel! Just came across your blog. Congrats! It&#039;s wonderful you&#039;re expanding beyond your tweets to give us deeper insights.  Looking forward to it. I agree with you that we as marketers/PR folks haven&#039;t lost control over the message and should look at it as more of an opportunity to engage with more people to try and shape the brand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rachel! Just came across your blog. Congrats! It&#8217;s wonderful you&#8217;re expanding beyond your tweets to give us deeper insights.  Looking forward to it. I agree with you that we as marketers/PR folks haven&#8217;t lost control over the message and should look at it as more of an opportunity to engage with more people to try and shape the brand.</p>
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